User talk:Rubýñ

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File:Writing systems worldwide.svg

Hello @Rubýñ, can you fix some things that need to be corrected from the map Writing systems worldwide.svg:

1. The official Serbian script is Cyrillic only

2. The official scripts of Morocco are Arabic and Tifinagh. Latin is not one of the official Moroccan scripts.

3. The only official script in Indonesia is Latin, so there is no need to add green and orange dots on the Indonesian map

4. Because the Autonomous Regions of Xinjiang, Tibet and Inner Mongolia in China use different writing systems, it is better if the three regions are given different colors at once, not just given dots with different colors. This is inconsistent with South India and Nunavut being colored differently, not just with dots. Thank you -Ibrahim Muizzuddin (talk) 05:39, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

I'll get on it ASAP. I based the upload on the PNG version, so I didn't do much checking on what was accurate and what wasn't. My bad. Rubýñ ^(Talk) 14:58, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

It is done. I decided to just fix other stuff while I was at it.

Thanks for pointing those mistakes out. Rubýñ ^(Talk) 17:59, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick response, @Rubýñ. However, allow me to make a few corrections and a few points that I missed mentioning earlier:

1. The territories around the Republic of Artsakh or Nagorno Karabakh occupied by Armenia have now returned to Azerbaijan since 2020.

2. For the Northeast region of India, only the states of Assam, Manipur and Tripura use the North Indic script as the official script. Specifically for Tripura, the North Indic script is the co-official script along with Latin. Other Northeast Indian states (Arunachal Pradesh, Meghalaya, Nagaland and Mizoram) only use the Latin alphabet. While Jammu and Kashmir use Arabic and Devanagari as an official scripts. So, they may need to be colored differently.

3. The Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region has never used the Cyrillic alphabet as its official script. While in Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region, Latin alphabet is co-official script along with Chinese.

Thank you -Ibrahim Muizzuddin (talk) 05:46, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for telling me! I've corrected the image. Rubýñ ^(Talk) 16:59, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

Hello @Rubýñ, if I may ask, are you willing to make a map File:Writing systems worldwide.svg but with description labels like this map File:World alphabets & writing systems.svg? Thank you. -Ibrahim Muizzuddin (talk) 16:51, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Hello!

I'm sorry, I can't take that up right this second. You should probably make a request on the Illustration Workshop for someone else to help you, though. Rubýñ ^(Talk) 17:57, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Alright, maybe I'll try editing it myself. But can you tell me which tool to use to edit the map? How do you make and remove colored stripes on the map? And how do you display the provincial or state boundaries within a country? Thank you. -Ibrahim Muizzuddin (talk) 04:18, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

I first have to actually add the shape of the provincial/state boundary I want to the map, since it is based on (File:BlankMap-World.svg), which doesn't have second level divisions in it. I take them from File:Blank Map World Secondary Political Divisions.svg, which kinda lines up with the base map but not really because it is smaller.

I open both files on Illustrator (you can use Inkscape) and line up the province that I want on top of the writing systems map, adjusting the size as necessary. What I usually do is copy an entire country, size it all up to fit the one on the map perfectly, and delete the regions I don't need. Because a lot of countries have only one official script, or only one part of the entire country has a different script (like China), it's not worth it to show every province.

I then save the resulting composite as an SVG and open that up on a text editor, copy the path data of the province/state I need and paste it on the original map, adding it to the necessary classes (like land-xx) so I can add styles to it. I then create a style that fits it and assign the path to it so it looks pretty. You can check the existing writing systems map to see how I did the stripes, but I remember copying the base code for that from somewhere else, so I can't really explain it well.

This map doesn't need a legend, though. It already has one below the file page and on every place where it is used across Wikimedia. A lot of maps on here are like that. You should upload a new one with symbols and a legend as a new file if you want them anyways. Rubýñ ^(Talk) 04:56, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

The Vietnamese Republican [Female] Youth Movement

• Why are you destroying the correct shape of this flag? The character VIET-NAM was intentionally placed in the center, and at the top there will be the words of this organization. The bottom is not left blank but is used so that platoons will write their names there. It seems like you just know how to draw and don't care if it's right or wrong, right?

— Preceding unsigned comment was added by 2405:4802:1CC0:D040:390E:9990:7336:43F3 (talk) 09:26, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

• No offense, but your drawing really does look like a woman's pussy. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 2405:4802:1CC0:D040:390E:9990:7336:43F3 (talk) 09:27, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

All Vietnamese flags (both national and communist) are drawn this way.

— Preceding unsigned comment was added by 2405:4802:1CC0:D040:390E:9990:7336:43F3 (talk) 09:29, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

• In addition, the green color of this flag matches the green color of the Italian flag. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 2405:4802:1CC0:D040:390E:9990:7336:43F3 (talk) 09:30, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
• 1 (Flag) 2 (Colors) — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 2405:4802:1CC0:D040:390E:9990:7336:43F3 (talk) 09:37, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

  "Why are you destroying the correct shape of this flag?" The flag is the exact same shape as before, 3:2.

  "The character VIET-NAM was intentionally placed at the center" That very source (which is also used on the file page) shows that the entire text of the flag is taken as a single element and vertically centered on the flag. The flag is waving, so it might be hard to see, but there is no way that the text "Việt Nam" is on or above the flag's centerline. If you have a better source that shows this flag, in full, with the text shifted upwards to fit custom writing, then the file can be corrected.

  Skipping the unwarranted, unproductive, and childish personal insults (no, saying "no offense" doesn't help you. At all)...

  "The green color of this flag matches the green color of the Italian flag. All Vietnamese flags (...) are drawn this way." I don't think this is true. I quickly went around sampling the shade of green other Viet flags use and I found around five different shades of green. I agree, however, that the colors I used don't really match any of them and were not great. I apologize. I sampled them from the file, but I color corrected for the yellowing of the paper. I've changed them to ones sampled directly from the source, without correction. Like before, if you have or find a better source than this 1961 print, you can put it on the file's talk page.

  "[Links to two Flickr albums]" I don't understand what relevance these two albums have. They don't show a single flag (let alone the one in question) and, even if they did, they're all on greyscale. Rubýñ ^(Talk) 15:29, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

• [05:45, 10 September 2014] It's true. You don't understand about the history of Vietnam. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 2405:4802:1CC0:D040:390E:9990:7336:43F3 (talk) 16:16, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
• I explained, but you are trying to misrepresent it. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 2405:4802:1CC0:D040:390E:9990:7336:43F3 (talk) 16:18, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
• It's ridiculous! You can't read Vietnamese but you don't like someone saying you don't know Vietnamese. Then you should delete your edits so they have nothing to do with our Vietnamese culture anymore. If you like drawing pussy, then you should ask someone to reattach Venus's arms and rebuild the Colosseum. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 2405:4802:1CC0:D040:390E:9990:7336:43F3 (talk) 16:26, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

  "You don't understand about the history of Vietnam.": You're right, I don't, that's not really something we get to study at school, but that's an unreasonably high barrier of entry from your end just to recreate a flag from a source, and I don't know how my lack of history knowledge detracts from what I said or invalidates my edit.

  "I explained, but you are trying to misrepresent it.": I don't understand what you mean by that, nor what you think I misrepresented. I disagree with your claims and observations and I voiced my disagreement; the source backs me up. If it's the shape that's "wrong", according to you, all I can say is that it's same as before my edit: 3:2. If it's the colors, then I've already changed them to ones directly sampled from the source, which are arguably more accurate than making the colors match those of other Viet military flags on Commons. And if it's the text, then you're just wrong, the source shows how the text is placed, it is not vertically offset to acomodate for platoons writing below it.

  If my edit is wrong, you're more than welcome to link me a source that shows that, then I'll make the correction.

  "You can't read Vietnamese but you don't like someone saying you don't know Vietnamese." Where is this even coming from? My knowledge of the language is irrelevant, I did not change the content of the text, and the source shows it's correct (at least the part that isn't obscured). I've never claimed to be able to read Viet, because I can't.

  "You should delete your edits so they have nothing to do with our Vietnamese culture anymore." This seems to be getting personal for you and that's problematic. The very source that you linked to (which I consulted while I made my edit because it's the file's source) shows that my edit is accurate and valid. This is a matter of factual accuracy, not cultural differences, but if this is a personal issue to you then, again, show me an image that tells me I'm wrong that I can use as a source and I'll make the edit right this second.

  And again with the personal attacks. Take a read at Commons:No personal attacks and mind your words. This behavior will lead to nought but a block for you and peace for me. If you're just here to be childish and compare my valid work to genitalia (which you seem to be, given you've done nothing else on Commons other than be on my talk page), then you're not welcome here. Cut it out. Rubýñ ^(Talk) 00:52, 22 February 2024 (UTC)