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Guten Abend, es handelt sich bei dem gelöschten File um ein familiengeschichtlich relevantes Dokument der Plessen-Familie. Das Dokument ist bzgl. des abgewickelten Rittergutes Dolgen von zentraler Relevanz und erklärt historische Fakten nach der Wiedervereinigung Deutschlands. Das Rittergut Dolgen ist insgesamt von enzyklopädischer Relevanz. MfG --Gordito1869 (talk) 19:21, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- All of the people mentioned are identified by their real names by the Chairman of the Plessen-Family and I therefore see no violations of personal rights through the historical family document. - My mother Rosemarie Pfeiffer (geb. von Plessen) is dead. This is a historical- and one of the last documents of the Dolgener-Plessen-Family and it was the last with of my dead mother to complete the family documents, regarding "Rittergut Dolgen" of her suicided father Leopold Freiherr von Plessen, in an encyclopedic format for all Plessen-members and Wiki-readers. I think the chairman of the Plessen family - User:Christian von Plessen - also agrees, since he has publicly named everyone's real names. " Best regards --Gordito1869 (talk) 07:48, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Raymond du hast offenbar eine Oversight Anfrage zu dieser Datei bekommen und diese durchgeführt. Abgesehen davon waren die Angaben zu Autor und Urheberrecht falsche, es müsste auch geklärt werden, woher das Dokument stammt. GPSLeo (talk) 08:21, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- Das historische Familiendokument der Plessen stammt - völlig klar erkennbar von User:Christian von Plessen - dem Vorsitzenden des Familienverbandes der Plessen. Ich denke, Herr Rechtsanwalt Dr. jur. Christian von Plessen zu Damshagen & Schönfeld wird mit der Veröffentlichung des historischen Dokuments bzgl. des Rittergutes Dolgen sehr einverstanden sein, da er selber alle Klarnamen öffentlich publiziert hat und immer an einer wahrheitsgemäßen enzyklopädischen Außerdarstellung der Familie von Plessen sehr interessiert ist, so denke ich. Als Rechtsanwalt und Volljurist hat er die Publizierung der Klarnamen hinsichtlich des Datenschutzes ganz sicherlich geprüft, so denke ich. MfG --Gordito1869 (talk) 10:03, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- @GPSLeo Das ist richtig. Der Benutzer mag sich gerne für eine Überprüfung wieder an die Oversighter, aber logischerweise nicht an mich, wenden. Raymond (talk) 10:04, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Raymond du hast offenbar eine Oversight Anfrage zu dieser Datei bekommen und diese durchgeführt. Abgesehen davon waren die Angaben zu Autor und Urheberrecht falsche, es müsste auch geklärt werden, woher das Dokument stammt. GPSLeo (talk) 08:21, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- @(Christian von Plessen möge sich zur mögl. Freischaltung äußern) - Das historische Familiendokument der Plessen stammt - völlig klar erkennbar von User:Christian von Plessen - dem Vorsitzenden des Familienverbandes der Plessen. Ich denke, Herr Rechtsanwalt Dr. jur. Christian von Plessen zu Damshagen & Schönfeld wird mit der Veröffentlichung des historischen Dokuments bzgl. des Rittergutes Dolgen sehr einverstanden sein, da er selber alle Klarnamen öffentlich publiziert hat und immer an einer wahrheitsgemäßen enzyklopädischen Außerdarstellung der Familie von Plessen sehr interessiert ist, so denke ich. Als Rechtsanwalt und Volljurist hat er die Publizierung der Klarnamen hinsichtlich des Datenschutzes ganz sicherlich geprüft, so denke ich. Ich bitte hiermit um Freischaltung des Dokuments, da es im Interesse einer enzyklopädisch korrekten Außendarstellung der Ur-Adelsfamilie derer von Plessen liegt. MfG --Gordito1869 (talk) 10:08, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
SupportMy vote, the reasons have been explained. Best regards --Gordito1869 (talk) 12:37, 28 January 2024 (UTC)- @Gordito1869: you cannot vote on your own undeletion request. Günther Frager (talk) 12:45, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- I only wanted to express my argument visually. Best regards --Gordito1869 (talk) 13:23, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- The activation of this historical document +++ https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:R%C3%BCckabwicklung_des_Plessengutes_Dolgen_am_See.pdf&action=edit&redlink=1 +++ would be even more important, as it clearly documents the final and historical demise of the Dolgen manor. All people were publicly expelled from Commons by the chairman of the Plessen-family association +++ here +++. I therefore do not recognize any data protection violations. I would very politely ask you to also unlock this encyclopedic and contemporary historical document. Best regards --Gordito1869 (talk) 07:49, 29 January 2024 (UTC) - PS : "...das Verständnis familiärer und historischer Zusammenhänge" ist das enzyklopädische Ziel; deshalb ist die Freischaltung i.S. des Vorsitzenden des Familienverbandes der Plessen enzyklopädisch dringend geboten & absolut erwünscht, so denke ich. ... vgl. auch +++ hier +++; die neuesten Forschungsstände zum abgewickelten Rittergut Dolgen wurden leider bisher noch nicht enzyklopädisch erfasst resp. dokumentiert. MfG --Gordito1869 (talk) 09:03, 29 January 2024 (UTC)-
- @(Christian von Plessen have now been repeatedly asked publicly to support the activation by publicly agreeing; since it is a verified user Template:User account verified I suggest that the support team made a corresponding request to the verified User / Benutzer Christian von Plessen via e-mail. The matter is very important for all Plessen and CvP will certainly agree, I think. Best regards --Gordito1869 (talk) 08:37, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- The activation of this historical document +++ https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:R%C3%BCckabwicklung_des_Plessengutes_Dolgen_am_See.pdf&action=edit&redlink=1 +++ would be even more important, as it clearly documents the final and historical demise of the Dolgen manor. All people were publicly expelled from Commons by the chairman of the Plessen-family association +++ here +++. I therefore do not recognize any data protection violations. I would very politely ask you to also unlock this encyclopedic and contemporary historical document. Best regards --Gordito1869 (talk) 07:49, 29 January 2024 (UTC) - PS : "...das Verständnis familiärer und historischer Zusammenhänge" ist das enzyklopädische Ziel; deshalb ist die Freischaltung i.S. des Vorsitzenden des Familienverbandes der Plessen enzyklopädisch dringend geboten & absolut erwünscht, so denke ich. ... vgl. auch +++ hier +++; die neuesten Forschungsstände zum abgewickelten Rittergut Dolgen wurden leider bisher noch nicht enzyklopädisch erfasst resp. dokumentiert. MfG --Gordito1869 (talk) 09:03, 29 January 2024 (UTC)-
- I only wanted to express my argument visually. Best regards --Gordito1869 (talk) 13:23, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Gordito1869: you cannot vote on your own undeletion request. Günther Frager (talk) 12:45, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
...zur vollständigen familiengeschichtlichen-, historischen- und auch enzyklopädischen Dokumentation der Abwicklung des historischen Rittergutes Dolgen wäre sicherlich insgesamt die Freischaltung folgender - gelöschter - Files wünschenswert und im enzyklopädischen Interesse der Familie von Plessen :
- File:Rückabwicklung des Plessengutes Dolgen am See.pdf
- File:Historische PLESSEN-Dokumente Rittergut Dolgen Einlassungen eines unberechtigten Dritten Vorsitzender des Familienverbandes der Plessen.pdf
- File:Historische PLESSEN-Dokumente Rittergut Dolgen gemeinschaftlicher EALG-Antrag an LARoV Hartwig von Plessen, Rosemarie Pfeiffer, 10-1994.pdf
- File:Historische PLESSEN-Dokumente Rittergut Dolgen ausgefertigte Heimatverzichtserklärungen zu Dolgen im Entwurf, die abgelehnt wurden.pdf
- File:Historische PLESSEN-Dokumente Rittergut Dolgen Notarvertrag zum Erbe des Rittergutsbesitzers zu Dolgen Leopold Freiherr von Plessen.pdf
- File:Historische PLESSEN-Dokumente Rittergut Dolgen LARV Schwerin Entscheidung nach AusglLG.pdf
- File:Historische PLESSEN-Dokumente Rittergut Dolgen Flächenerwerbsabsicht auf dem vormaligen Rittergut Dolgen nach ALG.pdf
- File:Historische PLESSEN-Dokumente Rittergut Dolgen Beschluss Deutscher Bundestag zu vollmachtloser BVVG-Vetternwirtschaft zu Damshagen, mit Auswirkung auf Dolgen.pdf
- File:Historische PLESSEN-Dokumente - Rittergut Dolgen - BVVG Landerwerbszusage nach ALG bzgl Dolgen.pdf
- File:Historische PLESSEN-Dokumente - Widerruf der BVVG bzgl einer zuvor bereits mehrfach durch LARoV und BVVG schriftlich erteilten ALG-Landerwerbszusage auf dem Rittergut Dolgen am See.pdf
- File:Historische PLESSEN-Dokumente - Aufkauf der (E)ALG-Rechtsansprüche an Plessengütern in der vormaligen SBZ.pdf
- File:Historische PLESSEN-Dokumente - Rittergut Dolgen - EGMR-Beschwerde 2005-1.pdf
- File:Historische PLESSEN-Dokumente - Rittergut Dolgen - EGMR-Beschwerde 2005-2.pdf
Die Freischaltung der vorstehenden Files würde die komplette jüngere Vergangenheit der sog. "Nach-Wende-Zeit" vollständig visuell ab dieser Zeit abbilden; genau das liegt exakt im erklärten wissenschaftlichen Forschungs-Interesse des Vorsitzenden des Familienverbandes der Plessen @(Christian von Plessen, so denke ich. Beste Grüße --Gordito1869 (talk) 14:47, 30 January 2024 (UTC)--Gordito1869 (talk) 14:47, 30 January 2024 (UTC) --- ps : es liegt leider die absolute Vermutung nahe, wir könnten es hier mit einem Hochstapler der PLESSEN zu tun haben, der sich als vorgeblicher Rechtsanwalt in eigener Sache mutmaßlich widerrechtlich ausgegeben haben könnte, so denke ich (nach meiner sehr validen Kenntnis familiärer Zusammenhänge ist CvP kein (!) Rechtsanwalt ... und auch niemals Rechtsanwalt gewesen, so denke ich. - MfG --Gordito1869 (talk) 19:00, 30 January 2024 (UTC) ... ps II. - ich denke, die aktive Untätigkeit des Vorsitzenden der Plessen - @(Christian von Plessen - resp. Rechtsanwalt (?) Dr. jur. Christian von Plessen - könnte als passive Zustimmung zur Freischaltung der historischen- & familiengeschichtlich besonders wertvollen Dokumente ausgelegt werden. Vielleicht kann mit der Freischaltung des ersten Dokuments begonnen werden, das den Vorsitzenden des Familienverbandes der Plessen sehr persönlich angeht ? - MfG --Gordito1869 (talk) 09:19, 31 January 2024 (UTC) ... ich denke, CvP liest - wie eigentlich immer - vollständig hier mit; wenn nunmehr auch noch eine e-mail Anfrage des support teams an @(Christian von Plessen ohne Reaktion verläuft, sollte m.E. freigeschaltet werden. Die unvollständige & absolut beschönigende resp. wahrheitswidrige Plessen-Saga des Edelherren Christian von Plessen muss unverzüglich geschichtsfest fortgeschrieben werden, so denke ich. - Ich habe ein aller-letztes Mal persönlich versucht, mit familiären & sehr persönlichen Worten, diesen offenbar völlig "abgetauchten" User "aus der Reserve" zu locken. - Alle entscheidenden familiären Zusammenhänge waren dem Vorsitzenden der Plessen bekanntlich leider bisher nicht bekannt, das sollte sich durch Freischaltung der hist. und enzyklopädisch wertvollen Familiendokumente aller Plessen sicherlich ändern können, so denke ich. --- Wie vermutlich einige (deutschsprachige) User bereits festgestellt haben werden, haben wir es mit dem widerwärtigsten und ehrlosesten VERRAT in der 1000-jährigen Geschichte der Plessen zu tun; Wiki-Commons ist m.E. der würdigste Ort, Geschichte enzyklopädisch und familienhistorisch korrekt zu schreiben resp. zu dokumentieren. - Wikipedia und Wiki-Commons sind "Orte", die sich der Wahrheit verschrieben haben und deren User/Benutzer nicht käuflich sind (ich selbst war und bin als Mensch und Bundebeamter niemals im Leben käuflich) : nur deshalb war ich lange Jahre Wikipedia Autor (158-Artikel & Listen) ... und bin seit ewigen Zeiten Wiki-Commons-User. Geschichte muss immer & überall auf UNSERER Welt auf nackter & ungeschönter Wahrheit beruhen, so denke ich ! - MfG Michael Pfeiffer alias --Gordito1869 (talk) 19:35, 31 January 2024 (UTC)--Gordito1869 (talk) 19:35, 31 January 2024 (UTC) ... ich denke, wenn @(Christian von Plessen keinerlei "Lebenszeichen" mehr seit nunmehr 3-Jahren - als vormals sehr aktiver Commons-User & hochtalentierter Wikipedia-Schriftsteller - von sich gibt, ist das sicherlich kein gutes Zeichen. (Bei Wikipedia gibt es für diesen Fall eigens die "Liste der vermissten Wikipedianer". Eine Anfrage unter dessen hinterlegter e-mail Adresse wäre vor Aufnahme in die Vermisstenliste - rein aus Fürsorgegründen - dringend geboten, so denke ich. Auch die durch Herrn Rechtsanwalt Dr. jur. Christian von PLESSEN vor 3-Jahren bereits angekündigte enzyklopädische Fortschreibung der "Plessen-Sage" darf m.E. nicht auf unbestimmte Zeit ausgesetzt werden, so denke ich. --Gordito1869 (talk) 13:05, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- Guten Abend + kurz nachgefragt : Spricht etwas dagegen, die enyklopädisch- und insbes. familiengeschichtlich- resp. historisch relevanten Dokumente in anonymisierter Form (wie z.B. hier : geschwärzt) ggf. neu hochzuladen ? - H.E. steht nicht mehr zu erwarten, dass der mannigfach "angepingte" User einer Publizierung zustimmen wird; ich denke, die Gründe dafür sollten hinlänglich bekannt sein. Das Anonymisieren von Akten ist allgemein üblich - ohne die zu dokumentierenden Fakten auszublenden. MfG --Gordito1869 (talk) 20:52, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- Guten Morgen, gibt es administrativ irgend eine Vorstellung, wie meine "undeletion requests" zum Abschluss gebracht werden könn(t)en ? - Ich möchte nochmals höflich darauf hinweisen, dass die familiengeschichtlichen Dokumente der "Plessen-Family" zum Verständnis der komplexen historischen Situation nach 1990 (Wiedervereinigung) von zentraler Bedeutung sind und - auch enzyklopädisch relevante - Zusammenhänge wahrheitsgemäß geschichtsfest dokumentieren (...ggf. mögen einzelne Namen und Adressen - aus Datenschutzgründen - geschwärzt werden; das ist/wäre ein absolut übliches Verfahren). - Herr (Rechtsanwalt (?)) Dr. jur. @(Christian von Plessen wird sich aus nachvollziehbaren Gründen sicherlich nicht mehr zum endgültig abgewickelten Rittergut Dolgen einlassen, so denke ich. - Die historischen Dokumente gehören allesamt +++ hier hin +++. --- MfG Michael Pfeiffer alias --Gordito1869 (talk) 07:43, 12 February 2024 (UTC)--Gordito1869 (talk) 07:43, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
@Minorax: , @Odder: , @Rama: We need an oversighter here, and Raymond was already involved and says others should take it on. Any other admins won't be able to do anything here. --Rosenzweig τ 09:54, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- Just to confirm that it is agreed that the privacy concern with regards to the files has been addressed and this is a successful undeletion request? --Min☠︎rax«¦talk¦» 10:04, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- I can't even see the files, nor do I have access to oversighter communication channels, so I cannot confirm anything. Presumably the privacy concern has not been addressed, but that's what an oversighter would need to look into and possibly tell the uploader which parts of the documents would need to be covered/blocked/removed for a re-upload which was already suggested by the uploader (and then probably close this undeletion request as unsuccessful). Any other admins won't be able to move this forward. --Rosenzweig τ 10:40, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Raymond: Mind commenting on this? Google translate doesn't seem to be helping me to understand the situation. --Min☠︎rax«¦talk¦» 02:54, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- They are documents of Plessen-family history and historical value. Professor Ernst Münch (University of Rostock)-, the renowned writer Elisabeth Plessen and other experts were involved in the important Plessen documents and the matter at all; activation is also expected for scientific reasons. If there are data protection concerns, certain information may need to be blacked out, which is common practice. - If it causes "a headache", please at least unblock this one document regarding Dolgen-Manor : https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:R%C3%BCckabwicklung_des_Plessengutes_Dolgen_am_See.pdf&action=edit&redlink=1 --- All people involved were named personally by @Dr. jur. Christian von Plessen, the chairman of the Plessen-Family himself; Data protection violations are therefore not apparent. - Best regards : --Gordito1869 (talk) 10:21, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Minorax Email sent. Raymond (talk) 11:08, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
@Dr. jur. Christian von Plessen wird sich - mehr als offensichtlich & aus allseits bekannten Gründen - nicht zu den historisch & familiengeschichtlich (enzyklopädisch) wertvollen (hier leider gelöschten) Familiendokumenten bzgl. Rittergut Dolgen einlassen, so denke ich. - PS : Bei Ratten im Langzeitversuch verursachte GVO in der Nahrungskette diverse Krebserkrankungen; ich hoffe dringend, meinem "lieben" Verwandten a.d.H. 19205 Schönfeld blieb- resp. bleibt das Schicksal der armen & kranken Genraps-Ratten erspart ... und der Edelherr äußert sich nun ggf. aus gesundheitlichen Gründen nicht mehr, obwohl er seine "Plessen-Saga" noch allumfassend & in seinem Sinne fortschreiben & bebildern wollte (?) - MfG --Gordito1869 (talk) 09:00, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Rosenzweig: Please check through. Thanks. --Min☠︎rax«¦talk¦» 12:03, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- You are a true man of honor and hero of our democracy : Thank you on behalf of my dead Plessen mother and my dead grandfather Leopold from the Dolgen Manor house !!! - Best regards, Michael J. Pfeiffer alias --Gordito1869 (talk) 20:47, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Minorax: I've looked at some, but will need a bit more time to read them all and form an opinion about their copyright status, if they're in scope, and about possible privacy concerns. --Rosenzweig τ 08:37, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- (Please don't forget : all real names were published by the @Dr. jur. Christian von Plessen (@Christian von Plessen: ) personally. The documents regarding Dolgen manor are of central importance for a truthful continuation of the encyclopedic and family history-relevant "Plessen saga". - Best regards, Michael Pfeiffer alias --Gordito1869 (talk) 10:32, 1 March 2024 (UTC) )
Chilean TOO files
Hello there. I want to ask for the undeletion of some images from Chile that have been deleted as a result of the misleading effect a now-removed phrase included on the COM:TOO Chile had. Per my reasoning at Commons:Deletion requests/File:AbcdinLogo.svg, these files are not copyrighted in Chile as they are way too simple, and the former claim that the "Estamos bien los 33" was copyrighted was not correct, there was a "presumed copyright" which has since been disputed in court.
Some of the files include:
- File:Primera dama logo.png
- File:MegaDementeLogo.jpg
- File:Estación Vivaceta.png
- File:Mega.png
- File:Logotipo de Teletrece (1994-1995).png
- File:Logotipo de Teletrece (1970-1972).png
--Bedivere (talk) 19:59, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Was your statement in that DR a ruling by the court, or just an argument by one of the parties? Not sure we can take an argument by one party in a court case as evidence that they will win on that argument. That all said, if the authority that registered the phrase earlier did not have any obligation to determine if it was above the threshold of originality in the first place, then not sure the registration can be taken as evidence for their being a copyright (unlike the U.S., where a copyright registration comes with that determination, so if published as a registered work there, it's likely above the threshold). Carl Lindberg (talk) 21:53, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- That's correct. The registration authority just complies with registration requests without actually pronunciating or determining the registered work is or not copyrightable, that's what I've called presumed copyright. The court case is still ongoing (has been for several years for causes unrelated to the actual Leitmotiv). Sernageomin's position (to my knowledge of Chilean law, and as a graduate) is entirely correct, but it just helps (within the DR comment) to illustrate why giving the "Estamos bien..." registration as the cause for deletion of files such as those I've mentioned is not prudential, as the registration does not imply a copyright was actually generated, and including it in the TOO Chile page was not helping. You've understood the whole point though Carl. Just a close look at the pertinent law clears up the whole picture Bedivere (talk) 07:11, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- I have restored Primera dama, MegaDemente and Mega as they seem to me, very clearly, too simple to be copyrighted in Chile, which was the reason to delete them originally. I'm unsure for the others, they are not trivial. Simpler versions of the Teletrece logos could be uploaded by leaving just the letters. I withdraw the request to undelete Estación Vivaceta as it is not too simple (as I thought it was when nominating). --Bedivere (talk) 02:45, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
I'd like to have this brought back, as it is dated to 1928/1929 in the original facebook post, and the current process for uploading says that something is in the public domain in the us if it was published before 1929 – Big ooga booga mf (talk) 13:06, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Is it a Facebook user in the photo? Who is the man in the back? Thuresson (talk) 15:10, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- I do not know, I have never noticed him thus far . . . Big ooga booga mf (talk) 15:54, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Big ooga booga mf: Where exactly was it published before 1929? Definitely not on Facebook. Being made before 1929 is not enough for PD status. Ankry (talk) 00:01, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- "Фотографија од @Valja Trajkovska / Photograph from (repeat)"
- the uploader was provided the photo by the woman mentioned above Big ooga booga mf (talk) 11:30, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- This is not about publication. I suspect that this is a private photo, unpublished before Facebook publication. Unless we know who the photographer is, it would be copyrighted 70 years since the FB post. At least in Russia. In US it may become PD 120 years afret creation, in 2050 (1929+120+1). Ankry (talk) 13:28, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- it seems to me as well that it might be a private photo, as a specific photographer is never mentioned anywhere, just a list of the family members & who "donated" the photo to the uploader Big ooga booga mf (talk) 13:36, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- This is not about publication. I suspect that this is a private photo, unpublished before Facebook publication. Unless we know who the photographer is, it would be copyrighted 70 years since the FB post. At least in Russia. In US it may become PD 120 years afret creation, in 2050 (1929+120+1). Ankry (talk) 13:28, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
Support{{PD-Russia-1996}} should be OK with this one. Yann (talk) 12:23, 1 March 2024 (UTC)- ok with russian copyright? Big ooga booga mf (talk) 12:42, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- as in, specifically russian copyright Big ooga booga mf (talk) 12:56, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- ok with russian copyright? Big ooga booga mf (talk) 12:42, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose This was posted at a Macedonian Facebook page so Russian copyright law is probably not relevant. More importantly though, it looks like a Facebook user photoshopped himself into the photo (backrow), hence out of scope. Thuresson (talk) 04:18, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- perhaps, as it is strange that the left shoulder is missing on the background man, yet I've never seen the actual face of the guy behind the page "Егејскиот дел на Македонија". who knows who it could be Big ooga booga mf (talk) 09:16, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- It is also probably in the public domain in Macedonia ({{PD-North Macedonia}}), but I can't support a photoshopped image. Yann (talk) 09:21, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- i've contacted the original guy who uploaded it, he said he uploaded the image as it was given to him, so it being photoshopped is ruled out
- now i've texted the woman who lent the photo to the guy behind "Егејскиот дел на Македонија", am just waiting on her response (which could be hours later, idk when she'll respond)
- regardless, the guy who uploaded it on the aegean facebook page says the image in untouched Big ooga booga mf (talk) 10:44, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- i've had enough of waiting, i just asked his permission, he granted it (given that the original lady hasn't responded in 4 hours at least, nor has she gone online at all) Big ooga booga mf (talk) 15:12, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- i have been granted permission, what will happen to this file? or is it still being deliberated over? wherever y'all do that Big ooga booga mf (talk) 17:18, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- i've had enough of waiting, i just asked his permission, he granted it (given that the original lady hasn't responded in 4 hours at least, nor has she gone online at all) Big ooga booga mf (talk) 15:12, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- I see nothing about unpublished works in {{PD-North Macedonia}}. @Yann: Why do you think that it is PD there? Ankry (talk) 00:56, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
These items were deleted "per nomination" and the nomination was that the uploader listed themselves as the creator: "very unlikely to be own work". The attribution was fixed prior to deletion, yet they were deleted. Another voter wrote delete because of "self-promotion" but loading images from a family archive of watchmakers is not self promotion. Providing images of one's ancestors is not self promotion, adding your own image would be self promotion, and even then, we are allowed to add a self image for our user pages. There were no images at all of the uploader. --RAN (talk) 18:10, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I agree with you on scope, but some of these appear to be 1920s or 1930s photographs and File:Portrait de Théophile Joseph Lognoné (1869-1920).jpg could have been 1910 rather than 1900 as the receding hairline points more to 40 than 30. Did the uploader state that their ancestors were the photographers or merely that they were in a family archive? We'd need to have correct information on the copyright status and not assumptions that make it more convenient to keep the photos. Abzeronow (talk) 18:37, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support for the following images. Yann (talk) 18:42, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Please, let me know when they will be restored ? CC BY-SA 4.0 Deed - Source : http://lognone.blogspot.fr (my family archives) Kevlo007007 (talk) 23:28, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- File:Mariage de Marguerite Chanvril et Théophile Lognoné le 19 avril 1922 à l’Eglise Toussaints de Rennes.png
File:Médaille du docteur Victor Even, vétérinaire à Santa Catalina (Argentine).jpg- File:Portrait de Théophile Joseph Lognoné (1869-1920).jpg
File:Statue de Chateaubriand à Dol-de-Bretagne.jpg- File:Entrée de la bijouterie-horlogerie de Théophile Lognoné, au n°8 de la Grande Rue des Stuarts.jpg
- @Kevlo007007: since they have asked to restored a few of these files in duplicate requests below. Abzeronow (talk) 23:18, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Can you please restore them ? CC BY-SA 4.0 Deed - Source : http://lognone.blogspot.fr (my family archives) Kevlo007007 (talk) 23:26, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I closed the DR as a deletion because I considered they were all derivative with no sufficient indication on source, not because they were self promotion. In particular, Chateaubriand's bust was erected in 1998 and this artwork is not PD (BTW files in Category:Buste de Chateaubriand (Dol-de-Bretagne) are problematic). I would have appreciated to be contacted first or at least notified of this request. — Racconish 💬 11:16, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- OK, I cancelled the support for the statue. Yann (talk) 12:10, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Victor Even's medal is lifted from Ebay [1] and the uploader is obviously neither the engraver nor the seller. — Racconish 💬 13:27, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- OK, I also cancelled that support. I thought that the issue was the copyright of the medal, which seems old enough. Yann (talk) 13:34, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment File:Mariage de Marguerite Chanvril et Théophile Lognoné le 19 avril 1922 à l’Eglise Toussaints de Rennes.png is signed by a professional photographer and cannot be deemed to have "no author disclosure". — Racconish 💬 13:55, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- I agree here. Oppose restoration until at least 2043 unless we can find the death date for the signed photographer. Abzeronow (talk) 17:29, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- What is the name of the photographer, I have access to the French death index. --RAN (talk) 18:01, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- It is difficult to tell at the low resolution used since it's cursive. Might be better if the uploader gave us a higher res scan of just the signature. Abzeronow (talk) 19:24, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Kevlo007007: You claimed at one point that you are the heir to the Théophile Lognoné archive and the copyrights, you need to indicate which images were taken by Théophile Lognoné (1869-1920) or Théophile Julien Lognoné (1895-1974) and switch those to {{Cc-by-sa-4.0-heirs}} from their current CC license, and you need to file a VRT form. There are photos of his family taken in their home, so he owned a camera and was an amateur photographer. Images taken by third party photographers, the copyright belongs to them until they expire. Also write the family biographies at Familypedia (Fandom) first and work out the references there, that way if they get deleted at Wikipedia they will still exist at Familypedia. I started an entry there and left the link on your talk page. Wikidata links to Familypedia. Familypedia is part of Fandom and is the for-profit version of Wikipedia, started by the same guy. I know English is not your first language, but people are giving you good advice, but you do not always follow it. --RAN (talk) 18:11, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Good. I will follow it Kevlo007007 (talk) 22:52, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- You can start by rescanning File:Mariage de Marguerite Chanvril et Théophile Lognoné le 19 avril 1922 à l’Eglise Toussaints de Rennes.png You should scan all images at 600 dpi, you can always make smaller but can't add resolution. Store as a png file instead of a jpg, so they do net get overly compressed. --RAN (talk) 23:35, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- You also need to file a COM:VRT and list what images were created by Théophile Lognoné (1869-1920) and Théophile Julien Lognoné (1895-1974). Those would be the images that you inherited the copyright to. I had asked you to do this over a month ago. List the correct person as the author= instead of adding your name. You are the uploader, not the creator. You are welcome to load the images to Familypedia, but there you also have properly list the correct author. Familypedia accepts fair use imagery for ones that you are not the copyright holder. If one of your articles get accepted at Wikipedia you can add in fair use images there too. --RAN (talk) 23:56, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
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Can you please restore File:Première usine des industries Probiomer.jpg ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevlo007007 (talk • contribs) 23:06, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Kevlo007007: when was this photograph taken and who is the photographer? Abzeronow (talk) 23:09, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- 1920. CC BY-SA 4.0 Deed - Source : http://lognone.blogspot.fr (my family archives) Kevlo007007 (talk) 23:16, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Same reference for the other requests. Kevlo007007 (talk) 23:19, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for answering one question. OK, do you know who took the photograph? Merely possessing photographs isn't enough to prove a copyright, we need to know if an ancestor took the photographs or if they were taken by someone else. Any information you provide about the physical photographs would be helpful. Abzeronow (talk) 23:21, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, it belongs to my ancestor : https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q124083997 Kevlo007007 (talk) 23:23, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- (google translate) Théophile était-il le photographe ? Posséder une photographie ne signifie pas que vous détenez les droits d'auteur. Abzeronow (talk) 23:26, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, it belongs to my ancestor : https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q124083997 Kevlo007007 (talk) 23:23, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for answering one question. OK, do you know who took the photograph? Merely possessing photographs isn't enough to prove a copyright, we need to know if an ancestor took the photographs or if they were taken by someone else. Any information you provide about the physical photographs would be helpful. Abzeronow (talk) 23:21, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Same reference for the other requests. Kevlo007007 (talk) 23:19, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- 1920. CC BY-SA 4.0 Deed - Source : http://lognone.blogspot.fr (my family archives) Kevlo007007 (talk) 23:16, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment The photograph was likely taken by Créations artistiques Heurtier [2]. — Racconish 💬 14:17, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- I also believe 1960s is more likely than 1920s here for this aerial photograph. Abzeronow (talk) 17:27, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
Not done: 1960s picture, not PD yet. --Yann (talk) 18:07, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
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Can you please restore it : File:Horlogerie bijouterie de la Grande rue des Stuarts.jpg ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevlo007007 (talk • contribs) 23:09, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Signing your posts is required on talk pages and it is a Commons policy to sign your posts on deletion requests, undeletion requests, and noticeboards. To do so, simply add four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your comments. Your user name or IP address (if you are not logged in) and a timestamp will then automatically be added when you save your comment. Signing your comments helps people to find out who said something and provides them with a link to your user/talk page (for further discussion). Thank you.
- Comment Black and white photograph. @Kevlo007007: Who is the photographer and when was this photograph taken? Abzeronow (talk) 23:13, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
1900. CC BY-SA 4.0 Deed - Source : http://lognone.blogspot.fr (my family archives)
- Support as PD-old-assumed-expired. Clothing, facial hair and the style of the store are suggestive of 1900 or thereabouts. Abzeronow (talk) 23:24, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Kevlo007007 (talk) 10:26, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
Done: See above. --Yann (talk) 18:05, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
The Dover Boys files
A few years ago some files from the film "The Dover Boys" were deleted, as per this deletion request, with the reasoning that the film is still copyrighted. The proof given was a document mentioning the film. However, lots of documents are filed later in regards to films, and just because it's mentioned that doesn't mean it's still copyrighted. What counts more in this case with a film from 1942 is if the film's copyright was renewed. A glance through the copyright catalogs for 1969-1971 returns no renewals. That would mean the film is in public domain, as it says in the article "List of animated films in the public domain in the United States" on Wikipedia, which has credible sources. The document in the deletion request contains quite a few films besides "The Dover Boys" which didn't have their copyrights renewed. I want the files to be restored and put in Category:The Dover Boys at Pimento University since I see no reason the files should be deleted. Grey ghost (talk) 21:20, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- It is true that the deletion reason was a citation to a "Recorded Document", which is just a statement filed with the Copyright Office on copyright transfers, terminations, and some other housekeeping stuff related to copyright. They are not themselves a registration or renewal, and can include works never registered or works that have expired. It is simply a statement made for the public record, and making things easier to research and trace. It is not an indication that the copyright still existed -- you would need to find an explicit renewal record for that. I did a quick search and could not find one, though I wouldn't put much stock in that. However, it sounds like more careful searches have been done, and the deletion reason was definitely wrong, so Support. Carl Lindberg (talk) 22:45, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
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Please restore the following pages:
- File:Mittra.jpg (edit · last · history · watch · unwatch · global usage · logs · purge · w · search · links · DR · del · undel · Delinker log)
- File:Mittra - Desce no time.jpg (edit · last · history · watch · unwatch · global usage · logs · purge · w · search · links · DR · del · undel · Delinker log)
Reason: permission received at ticket:2024021210011489 ━ Albertoleoncio Who, me? 22:40, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
Done: @Albertoleoncio: FYI. --Yann (talk) 22:45, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
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This is MY picture ! I made it ! So it's ok !! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Josclyde (talk • contribs) 11:39, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support HR picture with EXIF data, while the FB copy is much smaller. Yann (talk) 13:55, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
Done: Per request. --Bedivere (talk) 02:47, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
i want to add photo of çaykur rizespor football clubs president
--Caykurrizespor1 (talk) 17:40, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Then you need to make the photo yourself, using your own camera. Not grab it from Internet and claim false authorship. Ankry (talk) 00:33, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
Files deleted by Holly Cheng
Please restore the following pages:
- File:Salò o le 120 giornate di Sodoma 1.jpg (edit · last · history · watch · unwatch · global usage · logs · purge · w · search · links · DR · del · undel · Delinker log)
- File:Aldo Valletti - Salo (cropped).jpg (edit · last · history · watch · unwatch · global usage · logs · purge · w · search · links · DR · del · undel · Delinker log)
- File:Bonacelli-Salò.jpg (edit · last · history · watch · unwatch · global usage · logs · purge · w · search · links · DR · del · undel · Delinker log)
- File:Salo2.jpg (edit · last · history · watch · unwatch · global usage · logs · purge · w · search · links · DR · del · undel · Delinker log)
- File:Salo3.jpg (edit · last · history · watch · unwatch · global usage · logs · purge · w · search · links · DR · del · undel · Delinker log)
- File:Salo4.jpg (edit · last · history · watch · unwatch · global usage · logs · purge · w · search · links · DR · del · undel · Delinker log)
- File:Salo5.jpg (edit · last · history · watch · unwatch · global usage · logs · purge · w · search · links · DR · del · undel · Delinker log)
- File:Salo6.jpg (edit · last · history · watch · unwatch · global usage · logs · purge · w · search · links · DR · del · undel · Delinker log)
Reason: These files have been deleted in accordance with the discussion Commons:Deletion requests/Screenshots from Salo (film). The nominator noted that this Italian film was released in 1975 with a US copyright notice. But this is a mistake. The file the nominator linked to (it:File:Salò o le 120 giornate di Sodoma 001.jpg) is not the original screenshot from the 1975 film, but a screenshot from a later DVD release (no one was releasing a DVD in 1975). There is no reason to believe that the copyright was registered not only in Italy but also in the USA at the time of the film's release. Filming places was be Bologna, Castelfranco Emilia and Mantua. According to the legislation of Italy, where this film was shot, frames of the film are protected by copyright for 20 years (Art. 92 of Law for the Protection of Copyright and Neighboring Rights n.633). Since the film was first screened on 22.11.1975 at the Paris Film Festival (filmed between 03.03.1975-09.05.1975), it was in the public domain as of the Copyright Restoration Date (URAA) of 01.01.1996 (22.11.1975 + 20 years = 22.11.1995).
I see no reason to believe that screenshots from a DVD release or a Blu-ray release are sufficient grounds for removing a files. In addition, judging by the resolution of the files, they are not from this DVD.
You can read more about the PD-Italy consensus at the Commons:Deletion requests/Template:PD-Italy. Seva Seva (talk) 19:59, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose the film is still under copyright in the United States. The stills may be free in Italy, but they are under copyright under U.S. law. Abzeronow (talk) 20:21, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
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Four files of exhibition Antike in Bayern
Please restore
- File:2024-01-27 Ausstellung Antike in Bayern 17.jpg
- File:2024-01-27 Ausstellung Antike in Bayern 15.jpg
- File:2024-01-27 Ausstellung Antike in Bayern 13.jpg
- File:2024-01-27 Ausstellung Antike in Bayern 11.jpg
We have permission per Ticket#2024030410006016.
Thanks, --Mussklprozz (talk) 20:54, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
Done: @Mussklprozz: , please update permission. --Abzeronow (talk) 21:04, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
Please restore the following pages:
- File:Luxair Hal Findel.jpg (edit · last · history · watch · unwatch · global usage · logs · purge · w · search · links · DR · del · undel · Delinker log)
Reason: if the image shows the same hangar building as that of File:Boeing 737-5C9, Luxair AN0757085.jpg, then it is now OK for hosting on Commons as it is already in public domain. Built in 1952, and there is no known architect or designer. In PD in Luxembourg as an anonymous works (1952+70+1=January 1, 2023). JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 22:56, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
This was provided by the copywriter to post on the Company website. I work for this company and am working on added our game info to wikipedia. Thank you.
Please restore the following pages:
- File:Vairankode Vela.jpg (edit · last · history · watch · unwatch · global usage · logs · purge · w · search · links · DR · del · undel · Delinker log)
Reason: "Permissions" queue of OTRS, on Meta-Wiki Vairankodepooram20 (talk) 04:41, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Same photo as File:Vairankode vela photo.jpg. Thuresson (talk) 05:49, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
File:Gajraj Bahadur Nagar (cropped).jpg
He i believe this image should not deleted because this image doesn't belong to anyone and its available in public domain
Please recover this image. I had deleted this image by mistake.
Γιώτης Φωτιάδης (Yiotis Fotiadis) deleted photos
Hello! I want to ask for the undeletion of some images of the singer "Γιώτης Φωτιάδης (Yiotis Fotiadis)". They were deleted for Copyright reasons. The source of the photos is the artist's official website. At the Gallery page there is a note that the photos can be used freely.